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December 13, 2003
how not to blog
I came across this interesting set of "rules for good blogging" over at the Gothamist via Two Hour Lunch. It is a list of 8 things not to do when you blog. Some are reasonable, others are purely subjective and there is much controversy in the comments following the post. In a nutshell the 8 things are:
1. Don't call what you do a blog if it doesn't match the definition. This is really picky, as the definition is morphing daily. The premise here is that if you are writing about your life, what you ate, who you are seeing, that is a journal. Blogs are sets of links with impersonal commentary about grander ideas. This was considered a tongue-in-cheek rule by many people reading this post. After a few more rules, no one was really sure anymore.
2. Based on #1, do not write about yourself, your dog, your new shoes, your co-worker's nasal drip...no one cares. Now, in my opinion this is an extreme example used to prove a point. Sure, you will likely have fewer readers if you talk about things that are pertinent only in your life. The Gothamist is talking about blogs like this one, but as you can see, a parody of the genre is as compelling to see as really bad B movies. I personally like reading about people and what they are thinking, how they solved X or what clever Y thing they did. Of course there are limits to my interest, and I personally don't care about a lot that is written on the web. But what I find interesting others won't, and vice versa. This "rule" gets to me most because even as a guideline it smacks of censorship. Write whatever the hell you want. I don't have to read it if I don't like it. There are over 6 billion people in the world, and most of them have blogs now (ahem) so chances are *someone* is interested in the unusual color of your bruises. Nota bene from the Gothamist: it is a good idea to think of your blog as something *everyone* will read in light of the fact that as soon as you post what a jerk your boss is and how ugly his wife is...he will find it and read it. A more righteous example of this is you might post a picture from work and get fired over it. Old news, yes, but still a valid example.
3. Do not blog unless you plan to post more than once a quarter. Well, while I agree I have a hard time staying interested in blogs like that unless I know the person, I say it's your bandwidth to waste, go for it. Eventually I figure people who don't post very often will get bored of their site and just slow down to a full stop. No biggie.
4. Do not write other bloggers and ask for links. I am pretty impartial on this one. I figure you will either get a yes or a no. Now, I would say don't get upset if Blogger X doesn't "blogroll" you, even if you ask. That isn't classy. But most of us write so that others will read, and a good way to get read is to be linked on other sites. Trust me on that one :) Another good way to increase membership is to sign up for blogrings. Many more people see you if you are visible in places other than your best friend's blog that only you read.
5. Do not steal. Well I am all on board for that one. Credit is due for everything on your site you don't write or photograph yourself. Like these rules. 100% Gothamist, as you can tell because I disagree with many of them.
6. "Do not consider your blog a free ride to slander, promote gross inaccuracies, or pass along "facts" that are rumors." I subscribe to the altruistic view that blogging and amateur journalism will elevate "truth in reporting." In theory, we check all the facts we can before posting a story. If that isn't good enough, our readers will also check facts and let us and the world know when we make a boo-boo. A self-checking system at its finest. I also wonder if the new blog fad has increased or decreased or done nothing for the intelligence of the general populous.
7. Don't throw a hissy-fit when your readers disagree with you. That is a good one. Freaking out eggs on the trolls and also flies in the face of what I consider the purpose of having a blog - to interact with other people, to share ideas and experiences. Of course, some people grew up with conflict and that is where they are comfortable. They will find sites where their form of debate is welcome. Your site might be one. Again, who is to say what other should be doing in this format? And the Gothamist makes a good point. You can close your comments, delete offensive comments, ban IPs...there are a host of ways to combat the virulent flamers if you don't want to deal with them verbally.
Lastly, 8. Be polite. Of course I stand behind this one. Common courtesy isn't always common these days. I will extend this to not being rude to people whose sites you disapprove of. Don't like it? Don't read it. Ain't freedom grand?
What do you guys think about these rules? Have any of your own you think are appropriate? Think these are good or bad? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Yeah, I'm writing some kind of journal. It isn't a blog because I don't reference much beyond my hair follicles. But I'm surprised that people are interested. And I steal graphics with glee. Some are out of copyright and some were never copyrighted, but that sense of transgression warms my heart nonetheless.
Hell is 500,000 blogs all referencing the same 10 current events. Well, heck, anyway.
Posted by: Caleb at Dec 13, 2003 1:56:20 AM
I always find it fascinating that as soon as a new method of expression is opened up to a large group of people, someone will take it upon themselves to instruct others how to make the experience "genuine". It's a method that makes the rulemaker feel superior to the great unwashed masses that can't understand the deep meaning behind their pet hobby.
Like you do, I suspect, I don't think this is rocket science -- blogging is just free speech over a new medium, one which allows for the greatest dissemination power for individuals yet created. Like free speech on a street corner, you can do pretty much whatever you want to do with it. If you want to stand on a street corner and talk about nothing but your hair style, you won't get a lot of people to listen.
Some of these are pretty good, like don't steal (attribute and link back to your sources), be polite ... but those are rules for everyday life, aren't they?
Posted by: Captain Ed at Dec 13, 2003 9:27:17 AM
Strongly disagree with the rules on content (#1-3), strongly agree with the rules on conduct (#5-8). On #4...what you said. Since we all get to vote with our mouse (so to speak), the writer with an interesting "voice" will always get my vote, even if (and, sometimes, especially if) she or he is talking about her/his post-nasal drip. By Gothamist's reckoning, Margaret Cho and "Sour Bob" have bad blogs? QED.
Posted by: Bookish Gardener at Dec 13, 2003 9:27:35 AM
What it boils down to for me is you should be able to say whatever you want, however vitriolic, and as long as you don't force me to read it or it doesn't infringe on me, mazeltov. Go for it. Don't steal my stuff, that infringes on me. To dictate what other people write in their personal blogs is presumptuous. While the Gothamist's rules may just be guidelines for writing a blog they would like to read (why call them rules then?), it is still subjective as their comments show.
Posted by: Alicia at Dec 13, 2003 9:49:11 AM
Your right a lot of that is subjective, and other stuff makes sense. Seeing how this came from one person I'd love to see other experienced bloggers make a short (or long) list of "Do and Don't"
Posted by: Andrew at Dec 13, 2003 7:30:01 PM
I believe Gothamist is more than one person. I would also like to see other's "do's and don'ts" list. I for one prefer a blogger to interact with his readers. Some places I post comments are good about sending me email responses every time. Others do only when a point is made they want to comment on offblog. I do the latter, for things that I want to say just to that reader, not to everyone. Important also, to me, is that the blogger at least respond in the comments. I as a reader want to know the blogger is not just posting to the air and doesn't care if people read or not. If you don't want people's comments, don't enable comments on your site. Again, for me it is all about interaction with my fellow humans. Without that, my life is pretty uninteresting.
Posted by: Alicia at Dec 13, 2003 8:25:02 PM
I found the Gothanist list irritating. I don't mind the ediquette rules because commonsense isn't as commonplace as it should be. But the content rules bother me - I personally prefer blogs that are personal (as long as they focus on ideas and not what someone had for breakfast) But I'll choose the ones I want to read - and I figure others will do the same. Who needs content rules. Besides, blogs are like everything - they evolve.
Posted by: Wendy at Dec 14, 2003 1:18:15 PM
i don't blog, but enjoy reading them and i saw your comment in gothamist's rules of blogging. i admittedly went apeshit on them and this gets fiery but fear not, jake and i do make-up. it was just an exercise in calling someone on their shit in a very extreme manner. i just think this deserves a wider audience. this is why god invented the internet and lunatics..
-----Original Message-----
From: MO [mailto:thewaytheballbounced@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:48 PM
To: jake@gothamist.com; jen@gothamist.com
Subject: how not to blog
dear jake, i have noticed you removed some postings and closed the comments section for "what not to do when you blog." ironic, eh? it took something like this to learn the most important lesson when blogging: don't be such a self-aggrandizing asshole. (actually, let me give you another tip, this also applies when not blogging.)
what the hell were you two thinking in the first place? you're absolutely insane. no two bagels around it. you can't stick your neck that far out of the subway car and not expect to eventually get your head clocked. this is common sense, something you guys apparently lack along with the ability to provide compelling, original content.
it's totally cool to censor your own website, that's your choice, but the reason for this one is so disheartening. you were attacked - solely on the basis of what your website offers - and that you couldn't handle. sure it's gonna suck when someone says your site uh, "sucks" but i beg you to develop thicker skin as your readership increases. but am i really saying anything you don't know?
that said, i anticipated this so i copied the posts below before you took them down. (if you had *any* writing talent or something interesting to say you could have turned the situation to your advantage. though that would actually take brains and effort, huh? there's still hope though. c'mon kids, dig deep!) i think there's an accepting audience for this discussion and i will find it.
you had to expect shit like this when you overstate your importance. and there was NO other way it was gonna be interpreted. ahh, elizabeth spiers must be rolling in her grave now. she's dead, right?
http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2003/12/08/gothamist_notes_1_what_not_to_do_when_you_blog.php
December 08, 2003 Gothamist Notes 1: What Not to Do When You Blog
Ron Mwangaguhunga Dec 13, 2003 4:25 PM
Gothamist is like the cool Uncle for bloggers -- like Tom Hanks on Family Ties without the alcohol problem. I heart Gothamist.
NYWheeeeeee Dec 13, 2003 7:12 PM
Gothamist is like the crazy Uncle for bloggers who tells you all this crap like wearing a blogring really enhances sex and if you piss on other bloggers you will turn into a nasty cloud of mustard gas. (Wait, actually, the 2nd one IS true.)
This often self-absorbed, attention-craving Uncle (though this goes for pretty much every other family member too) would like to bore you with stories about how his life, from birth to now, has been so relevant and funny and heart-breaking and touching and dammit-why-doesn't-someone-make-a-movie-about-me-already-with-Bill-Murray-Will-Ferrell-and-hmm-ME-duh, until finally you say: "Dude, enough."
And then he starts giving you his opinion on all the stories he reads from major media outlets. You're really frustrated now. You hide behind your brother and scream, "Seriously, I didn't care when you talked about losing your virginity during the Summer of Sam in a traffic jam on the Belt Parkway in Sheepshead Bay and I don't care NOW what you think about a NYPost
article on Paris Hilton, who has lost her virginity about 2,367 times! Also, I already get the Times, dipshit."
What? Pull your finger? OK. Arrrrgh, damn you Unkie Gothie!! I fart Gothamist.
jake Dec 13, 2003 10:18 PM
serenity now. serenity now. rule #7 don't fail me now.
Sudo Nim Dec 14, 2003 4:20 PM
oh jake, you're so cute, you even quote the quinessential new york sitcom! but c'mon, screw serenity. it's time to bust out the festivus pole and use some gotham-style ghetto tactics on these halfwit nincompoopies. start taking fake names and blocking IP addresses!
seriously, these "notes" are awesome. like, totes. thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. (how's my #8?) finally someone spells it out for the rest of us. it's like showing up to the first day of junior high and some older kid pulls you aside and secretly gives you a romanesque-oh-style book bound in suede (with a clasp
too!) that is titled "How To Be Cool And Not Get Your Ass Pounded Daily, Unless You're Into That Sorta Thing."
oh, quick tip: there's like this trashcan on houston and ave d that looks so amazing when it's overflowing with refuse and i bet if you take a picture of it during the twilight of late afternoon with some traffic in the background, and possibly even a latino, it would be like the *BEST* nyc photo EVER. you're welcome!!
(in a perfect world this thread would fade out here with a soothing sebadoh song like "on fire"...)
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jake Dec 14, 2003 7:48 PM
thanks for your input! how long did that comment take you to compose, like an hour?
The Dogger Dec 14, 2003 9:45 PM
The fighting on this board is about as realistic as those slutty D.A.s on Law & Order (the tits on those chicks are sharper than the flaccid barbs being exchanged here). It's obvious to anyone who bothers reading between the lines that you two know each other from the back room of some East Village pounding hole, where you undoubtedly were dancing to something like Don Johnson's "Heartbeat." And Jake, shame on you. As a writer, you should be able to tell Sudo Nim's post was cribbed from graffiti on your bathroom wall.
Alias3.0 Dec 14, 2003 10:05 PM
an hour?? wow, i am so flattered! god that would be great. it took me like, half the day. gawd! (blush) but to be fair to myself, it was all with my left-hand.
also, in the "school of blogging" i attended (UUPP Class of '01, Go You Hamsters!) i was taught to always try and write something that is interesting or provocative, and takes at least a modicum of intellect and effort (though really this shit just flys from my fingers, what can i say other than: i'm...just...that...good.) the gothamist model of posting observations in a voice not unlike that of a retarded grandmother (aw, dear old, senile bubbe) on movies and local news with awesome national coverage too (CNN and MSNBC links, sweet!) is just the kind of rote crap that is killing this space. you dont have to say it loud or proud, just NEW. is this really that difficult to comprehend and execute?
but hey, i'm not all oil, piss, vinegar, and beer farts. i would gladly be a guest gothamist intern for a week and get you folks going in the right direction. giddyup.
(note to the dogger: jake and i are in the same pilates class.)
--- Jacob Dobkin wrote:
I deleted the comments because they were off topic- your flames were amusing, but they didn't add much to the discussion. Let me give you a tip: attack the content of a post, not the author. If you disagree with something we wrote, you can say why. If you notice, the trackbacks on the post are still open, so feel free to post the comments, or anything else you want on your own blog.
-Jake
--- "MO" wrote:
"off topic"? "didn't add much to the discussion"? oh man, clearly you...just...don't...get...it. look, you posted a ridiculous set of guidelines (i know, not rules, merely guidelines!) about what makes a good or bad blog. and while my comments flamed like desert oil fires, i only took you to task on what you said and criticized HOW YOU BLOG. it was nothing personal. if you're gonna get up on a high horse and stampede down 2nd avenue with the other 3 horsemen of the ablogalypse, then it's completely fair and RELEVANT to dissect the way gothamist blogs. maybe i'm the only one who can't stand the way people provide links to mainstream articles everyone's already read without ADDING MUCH TO THE DISCUSSION. i just dont think you provide news in an interesting way and could be doing so much more with the platform you have. by the way, i do think the events stuff truly is great. i find that very useful and always complained something like that didn't exist in a user-friendly way before.
whatever, like old ex's, you're never gonna change. i'm wasting my time and your time so let's just get back to our primary wastes of time: work and the gothamshit.
--- Jacob Dobkin wrote:
Ablogalypse! That's hilarious- you should use that as the name for your blog. Come to the next happy hour and we'll have a beer and you can tell us what bitches we are.
-Jake
--- "MO" wrote:
haha, ok. now you got me. that's just the reply i was waiting for. rule#1.1: LOVE your detractors and they melt. i really do enjoy gothamist and well, i'm just starting shit obviously. i will be at the next happy hour and we can thumb-wrestle to settle our differences. as long as you're buying...
--- Jacob Dobkin wrote:
Absolutely- the beers are on me.
Posted by: Mo at Dec 15, 2003 9:32:57 PM



